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Boxer Evander Holyfield & MMA Fighter Luke Barnatt
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In this episode we talk to five time Heavyweight World Champion Evander 'Real Deal' Holyfield about his current training methods and we discuss his most memorable fights with Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis. We also drop in on former British UFC and current MMA fighter Luke Barnatt who gives us some tips on how to take on larger opponents and he explains why we don't need to run any further than 5k a day.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Menswear Style Podcast with me, your host, Pete Brooker. And on today's episode, it's gonna be Fighting Talk. We're gonna be talking to five times heavyweight world champion, Evander Holyfield.
SPEAKER_02I've more prepared for him than anybody I ever fought in my whole life because he was that good.
SPEAKER_00That interview coming up shortly. So what do you think to Evander Holyfield then, Mickey?
SPEAKER_03This guy is a wrecking machine, and he's hungry.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so he's hungry, but I've interviewed celebrities in the past, Mickey.
SPEAKER_03I should be a That was easy!
SPEAKER_00Why? Why easy?
SPEAKER_03They was handpicked!
SPEAKER_00Okay, so they're handpicked, but yes, these are still high caliber guests, so Mickey says. The likes of Darren Kennedy, Joshua Kane, we've had Oliver Proudlock on the show.
SPEAKER_03But they wasn't killers like this guy. He'll knock you in tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00Okay, maybe. We'll come back to that. We're also gonna be interviewing Luke Bannett, former UFC fighter and MMA fighter, and he's gonna tell me how he's gonna beat me up.
SPEAKER_01I'm a like I said, I'm a giant, so if you stay away from me, I've got long arms, long legs, long limbs, I can knee you, punch you, whatever.
SPEAKER_00Luke Burnett there. So what do you think of my chances are with Luke then, Mickey?
SPEAKER_03This guy'll kill you to death inside of three rounds!
SPEAKER_00You're probably right. Okay. So without any further ado, let's get Evander on the line. Apollo, would you mind?
SPEAKER_02Alright. Ding ding.
SPEAKER_00Welcome onto the podcast, Evander Holyfield. Thank you for taking the time out to speak to me, Evander. Um so uh if you can just tell us a little bit about what your philosophy towards training is these days. Uh do you still enjoy it? And did you ever enjoy it?
SPEAKER_02Well, uh I always enjoy uh training. Training was something like a hobby. You know, somehow sweating and running and being active was something that that thrilled me. And uh and and I was good at it, you know, and so uh it was quite different, you know, it was like a hobby, you know, working out, sweat and competing like that, because uh me being the youngest of nine as a kid, and you know, my brothers and sisters used to beat me in everything. And I I kept asking my mom, you know, they never let me win. And my mom told me they don't suppose to. She said I will have my day. And uh she was right, you know, um when I got older, I man, I was really good. And and and it's it thrilled me to to uh being able to compete and and being the best.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I guess it pushed you. I can actually relate to that. My um I've got two older brothers, and one of them just loved to pin me down on the floor, uh kind of crawl up me with his knees and fart on my face. And I would just say there will be a day where the tables will be turned, and uh I enjoy that day every day, pretty much, beating up my brother. So So uh were there any methods of exercise that you you didn't like doing, like running or the weights? Was there anything that you just kind of thought, oh Criker, I can't be asked for this bit?
SPEAKER_02Well, uh, you know, uh I I I would say the weakest was my flexibility. You know, I I went good in stretching. And uh and you know, uh, you know, when I turned professional and I finally got a stretching coach, it was just the worst or everything. It was torment, you know, know that I I'd rather I'd rather get hit than have to stretch. But understanding that stretching was good for you, it is what allowed you not to get tired, to recover quick, and all that. So, you know, it's and I guess the knowledge eventually come to mind that, well, the thing that I I hate the most is the thing that I I did most of the time, you know. So stretching and uh stretching and actually uh uh sparring, those was the two, the two worst things for me that that that made me strong.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Tell us a little bit about starring, please, um, Evander, because I've sparred a little bit in the gym as well, and I'm always wary about getting hit in the cash register, you know, the face. I'm just kind of I almost want to say to the other guy, look, can we just punch in the chest and not the face today? But I don't want to I don't want to come across as a a bit of a uh pussy for want of a better word.
SPEAKER_02Um Well, yeah, I'm pretty much that mean too uh like I I really didn't like sparring at all. And you know, as it, you know, I you know, I because I always thought about you know, everybody have their day. And and and it's obvious that I was having a lot of great days and and I was just wondering what how the bad day gonna be. But you know, I but I I'm always I'm always winning. I'm always winning and sparring out because I I spar pretty much just like I'm fighting, you know, and because you know, my coach told me that, you know, people who practice hard, you know, they're accustomed to fighting hard. So, you know, you have to you you have to practice like you have to practice like you perform. And and pretty much when uh sparring, it was like it was like me fighting in my heart, my heart would beat fast, and and and I didn't like headgears, but I had to, and it it made my heart beat even faster.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I'm guessing you don't have to really spar anymore. I mean, I've heard in other interviews you you say you're in good walking around shape, but you don't feel like you're in good boxing shape. So anything that you didn't like doing in the past, I guess you don't get up in the morning and do first thing these days.
SPEAKER_02Well, well, you know, the thing the thing is uh, you know, I I do believe in stand in shape. You know, I you know I I have this thing in my mind, I want to live to 120, but I want to look good, you know. So you know, looking good have like to do with how you think. And you know, my thinking is that, you know, why stop doing something that works? So, you know, you know, I you know, I'm not I'm not I'm not planning on fighting anybody, so um, but I I want to be in shape. I want to feel good about myself and the way I carry myself, you know. So it's a it's a it's uh it's a thinking method more so than just an ego thing. You know, so because ego when when you you pretend to be something that you're really not, it's it's not an ego with me. I I like being in shape, I I like running, I I like sweating, I I'm willing to pay whatever price is necessary and being the very best.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um about um positive attitude and mental toughness and and how you have I mean to be a boxer you have to have just grit and self-belief, but how much does that play a part in the training to achieve your goals?
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm it's a it's a it's a daily thing, you know. Um you know when when you know when you're you know, as a kid, when I I get on the bus to go practice, you know, it when I get on the bus, I I start thinking about all the things that I have to do. And sometimes I'll fall asleep on the bus and I'm I'm thinking about, whoo, you know, this, you know, because I had I had, you know, I'm telling you, you know, at 16 years old, I was sparring with heavyweights. I was a 139 pound, but I'm I'm I'm sparring heavyweight. I'm somebody who hits hard, and you know, but I'm a better boxer, and and so my experience, I had more experience than them, but they hit a lot harder. So, you know, it I may I may I may win, but they can hit me one shot and they made me pay for everything that I did.
SPEAKER_00Well, I I think that is for me, perhaps the beauty of heavyweight boxing is that they call it um like everyone's got a puncher's chance, everyone's got they may not be the best fighter in the world, they might be losing 11 rounds out of 12, but they've still got a haymaker in them that can just end a fight right there. Um, and I think that that's for me is what you know makes it amazing to watch.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, it it does because there's there's some kind of hope in there. You you got some kind of vanity, but but the thing with me, I was I was always prepared. And so the the I guess the funer part of about me was pretty much what my mama said, son, always be in shape, always outwork your opponent. And so I I always felt that I had enough, I was in shape enough to outwork my opponent, which which always put me in a position to win.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Uh about your opponents as well. I mean, if I can just touch on your boxing career quickly. Um I remember watching the fight around about three or four o'clock in the morning, UK time, of you jumping in the ring for the first time against Tyson. You jumped in the ring and almost danced in the ring with the biggest smile on your face, and the the commentator over here said, He just looks so happy to be here. Does he know that he's about to have a fight? I mean, is that on purpose? Is that some kind of mind mind full of things?
SPEAKER_02Well, it was it was it was on purpose, and the fact of the fact of the matter is that you know people fight Tyson, you know, he was he would get into him. And I kind of felt that this is supposed to be my easiest fight. So I got I got to carry out that way. You know, you're you're the Tyson, Tyson was the only fighter I would just I'm more prepared for him than anybody ever fought in my whole life because he was that good. And not because he was that weak, because he was that good. And what my mother had told me, my mother said, you can't wish good people away because they don't go away. Son, you have to, you just got to prepare yourself and know that this is gonna be the fight that you that gonna, you know, you know, Tyson fight is the fight that after all, you know, I had been the heavyweight champion of the world twice before I fought Tyson, but beating Tyson kind of was was it. It's almost like I could have retired after that and said, well, look, I did ultimately what I guess I forced boxing that I was meant to do, to fight Mike Tyson. Yeah. Because people talked about it so much to it, it became that it became that a reality to me. That people, if I don't beat Mike Tyson, then you know I I'm never gonna amount to nothing, but I was a boxer, just like all the uh all the other people. But because I I was able to beat Mike Tyson, it's kind of it kind of lined me up and in me being the ultimate fighter that people said that I am.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, I guess it's uh it's the tip of the spear really when you um when you beat Tyson, and it was a great fight. Uh I just got a couple of other questions, uh please, Evand, if you've got time. Um you said that uh Lewis was perhaps your toughest opponent, although you beat Tyson. Lewis was one of the hardest opponents. Was that because uh was he deceptively heavy-handed or uh maybe a height thing? Um why do you think that was?
SPEAKER_02Well, you know, with me, he uh Lennox is he's a smart fighter. Smart fighter. He really don't give you nothing to fight with. And you know, with Tyson, Tyson, Tyson was quite different. Tyson was uh very explosive and and you know, I'm coming to get you type guy. So, you know, it was it's easy to it was easy for me to figure him out. He gonna come and get me, and I just and I can outwork him. With Lennox, Lennox was like he fought a great fight for his style. You know, he was he was taller, he was bigger, and got longer arms, and and and he wouldn't, he never he would never get to the point and just fight. I if I got I felt that if I get him into a fight, I could beat it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But you know, just just picking and you know, and it would kind of it was like uh when anybody who ever watched my fights and said, well man, Evander liked fighting fast. He don't like fighting slow. Yeah you slow it get boring, you know, it was hard for me to focus if if things slow down too. And it was like it was like it was like, you know, like that first fight was just, you know, please do something, you know, and you know, and you know, the people start booing and stuff like this. I was a pr I was an entertainer. You know, in other words, when you when you're an entertainer, you you care about you care about your your your fans. You know, so I always wanted to give my fans something that they they that they can go back and brag about. Oh my goodness, can't do that. Oh no. You know, that's what fam likes. Fam wants you to do something they wouldn't do.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So and and you know, and Lennox, Lenny, he was, he was, he was safe. He he he fought his fight just very safe, very conservative. You know, with me, I want to, I, you know, even in, you know, I guess one of the one of the toughest fights that I fought with ready to bow the first one, I'm talking about in the point of losing people was was so thrilled with me. They said, God, how did you take all of that? You know, I'm talking about that's what the fan want to do. They want to see you to do something that they wouldn't dare do.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And so, you know, I'm you know, the chances that you take in being who you are, you know, I'm so so when people see me and they say, oh man, he's a warrior, because they they they they they witnessed it. They saw me, they, they saw me go through the battles that I went through and came out. I'm okay. I'm okay because I I honestly I I realized that I trained for all my matches. Uh, you know, I didn't take nobody for granted. You know, I'm you know, I'm telling you, even as even as Redable, even as you know, the people who my my toughest ponent are the people that, you know, that kind of made my, you know, I'm telling I'm a type of person that look beatable. Because people say, oh, he he he he's small, he's nice. Man, ain't no way in the world he can beat them guys. But you know, I'm saying that's you know what? That's the whole big the part of being the very best means that even with yourself, you have to take you have to talk yourself into making yourself believe that you can beat this guy. I didn't have people I could just look at, I'm just gonna beat. I had to talk myself into it. I had to tell myself, hey, it ain't what I see. I got to beat these guys. And you know, and and and it made it made it just that much uh interesting for me to to to look at something and say, well, well, he may be this, this, this, this, but I cannot thank that guy. I cannot thank that guy. Because you know, life is about thinking. Uh how you uh it's your mindset to how it's gonna take to get you there. I'm telling you, it was interesting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, about the mindset as well. I remember with the Lewis fight, you said something before the fight about the round that you were gonna win it in. Uh, was it the third or the fourth? You said, predictions are for weathermen. I know that I'm gonna drop him in the third. And I thought, oh, that is electric. Because as soon as it got to that round, everyone was on their balls or their feet, everyone was expecting it. And I think it got in Lewis's mind as well because you won that round and not only won the round, but was so close to actually putting him down on that round, I think. What round was that?
SPEAKER_02Well, it's the third round, it was the third round, and you know, it would and it was the worst mistake I ever made, you know, and uh and I and I said what I said for the wrong reason, because uh, you know, a lot of people didn't understand that after the after the Tyson fight, I got so much publicity by saying that you know I was gonna I I was gonna beat him by guarantee that I'm gonna beat him and all this. And and but when it came into that the fight with Lennox, we was on the phone and and and we got into we got into he said something to me that that really upset me, which I I didn't I kind of felt that that would that's a you know that's a low blow, that's just like somebody just a cheap shot. And so, you know, so Lenny started Lennon said something like, you know, he started talking about my religion. So I said, you know, he talked about he a Christian, he has all these kids out of wedlock. I'm talking about it would, you know, and you know, and that bothered me because you know, you know, we as boxers, we don't usually, you know, we don't we don't really hit people with personal shots like that. And so that's the first time somebody ever did that, but he did, and it bothered me, which which which allowed me to say I would knock him out, you know, and which was which was silly, you know, because my own thing, I'm I don't just just come out and just say, I'm gonna knock you, I'm gonna knock you out there. And I said that because I was upset and I was mad because what he said about it, he would he, you know, attacking me personally uh uh about my religion. And uh but I wanted to say something to him that that that would mean to, but but but were part of the game, you know, to to knock people out. That's what people try to do. We we try to knock each other out, make life, make things a little easier for ourselves, but and but you know, but I know it was strange for people to hear me say that I'm gonna knock somebody out and like this, and and I said it, and but but the media would not let me forget that I said I I just try to try to try to try to because it you know because it's just it's very sad and kind of foolish for you to say I'm gonna knock somebody out in the third round and not think that that person's gonna do everything they can not get knocked out that third round. But if he but if he survived that, it's gonna hurt me. And it did, because after that third round, I'm talking about all my energy was gone, and it was just like, you know, I was embarrassed by even saying something like this, but I made it through the fight, and they were called a draw. And I will I was like, you know, and I felt that I got, and I felt me personally, I felt that I got tow up. And how I got a draw, I don't know. But I did. But I I I don't judge, I I don't score the fights and all that. I'm not the judge. But whatever I uh which I I actually thought that was my worst fight ever in my whole entire life. I felt bad. I was sick, I was everything, everything happened in that fight. And but it it I learned from it that you know what, you zip that mouth up, you just zip it up because that ain't what I ain't never bragged about. I'm gonna knock somebody out and all this and stuff. And I did that, and and and that's I actually felt that that's the worst fight in my whole life.
SPEAKER_00It didn't look like your worst fight, Evand. I gotta say, I think you uh you traded blows pretty well with the guy. I mean, it wasn't uh it wasn't that far off a draw. I didn't think that Lewis edged it personally, but like I say, that that fight went the distance enough for me. It was really memorable. We're talking about when I was a kid now, watching that, hanging around till three or four o'clock in the morning so that we could watch it in the house. And it was uh it was about as like you say, you want to be an entertainer, and that round stuck out to me as probably one of the best rounds I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's amazing. That that's only I felt that's the only round that I I did anything. I don't know what. I'm like, I was, you know, I said that was a really embarrassing fight for me. I just couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't say nothing. And I was sick. I could I couldn't believe that I would instantly after I after I ate and I was going down to the ring, and I was I'm I was sick, and I'm like sweating, and everybody asked me whether I'm like, man, I What in the world wrong with me? I'm I'm sick and I don't you know you know I don't you know because I I realize that I I never been in a fight and I didn't feel good. All my fight I feel bad. All my fight, not just just just this fight. All my fight, I feel bad then when the when the bell when the bell rings and I go out there the fight change. Like this time I feel sick, and I feel sick. Each and every round, I'm wondering when it gonna change. And it changes. Just the third round.
SPEAKER_00You're on the money. You're on the money. Umander, uh, I should say I was gonna ask you about your your boxing name, the real deal, and where it came from. I've uh when I was doing some sparring, light sparring, I never competed, but I I gave myself a name hoping that it would catch on. So uh I would walk into the boxing gym. My surname's Brooker, so I was calling myself Peter the pressure cooker Brooker to try and intimidate my opponents, which didn't work at all. But uh what about your name, The Real Deal? Where's it come from? And uh when did it start?
SPEAKER_02Well, you know, it it's it's it I'm saying it started when I I worked at uh a small airport, you know, gas and little small planes when when I was coming up. And uh and and at that time is it's in the 80s, and you know, I just got out of high school in 1980, and and it's CBs, everybody had these CBs, and everybody had uh they had nicknames. And so the guy, my boss, his name was Papa Chala. And he and he and he was telling me, he said, man, you gotta you gotta get a you gotta get a name where we get you get in the C B club.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I said, okay, so I said, you know, real deal. So so so they so you know, I'm a real deal Holyfield from Bright Light City, Atlanta, Georgia.
SPEAKER_00Sounds so lyrical when you say it like that. It should be in a summer.
SPEAKER_02I was talking this, I said that that's how that's how it took place then. When I I got to when I got to Colorado Spring, when I make an Olympic team, they kept understanding what's the deal, Holyfield. So, so so so they started calling so I I get the name Real Deal. And so, so when when when I was in the Olympics and I got disqualified, and they said, man, they gave the real deal, they said they gave the real deal a wrong deal. Oh yeah. So they started calling me wrong deal. I said, no, no, no, no. I don't I don't want that name wrong deal. I said, I'm the real deal. Yeah. Like this, and and so I just put it on my trunks, real deal holy field, and it and and you know through my through my career, people realize that this guy's the real deal.
SPEAKER_00Evander Holyfield there. And uh, well, I can't tell you how great it felt to speak to Evander, but it felt something like this. Former UFC fighter, current MMA fighter, Luke Barnett, and he's gonna give us an insight on his training regimes and what it takes to be a badass. Uh are we ready, Mick?
SPEAKER_03What are we waiting for?
SPEAKER_00Let's do it. On the podcast now we have Luke Barnett, former UFC fighter and MMA fighter. How are you doing, Luke?
SPEAKER_01I'm very good, mate. How are you?
SPEAKER_00I'm very well, thanks. Uh thanks for taking the time out to talk to me today. So uh whereabouts are you now in your stage of your career? So you were in the UFC, uh, you're still out there kicking ass. Uh what's the state of play?
SPEAKER_01Uh well, basically, I um I joined the UFC about four years ago. Uh I was very young in the sport, I'd only been doing it for about two years, and I got to the UFC very quickly. Um I had uh a three three-year reign there, I was there for three years, uh, had uh six fights within the organisation all over the world, and then I left uh the UFC uh last year, sometime, I can't remember exactly when. Um since then I've had three fights outside the UFC, I've won all three all by a finish, um, and I'm now currently the uh Venator middleweight champion, which is basically uh the biggest promotion in Italy and one of the biggest promotions in Europe. Um so I'm the champion over there, and I'm just uh you know fight fighting where I can find fights and doing what I can do.
SPEAKER_00Brilliant. And uh is this all uh the comeback journey to get back into the UFC, or you are you happy just to be out there kicking ass and seeing if anyone can topple you basically?
SPEAKER_01Um I mean it's one of those things. I mean being with the UFC is a great uh experience, and they are the uh the pinnacle of the sport, so it's great to be there. Um but right now I'm I'm concentrating on myself. I just recently got married, so I'm you know, I'm trying to get all of my affairs in order before I go back on that roller coaster, which they call the UFC. Um, you know, it's it's an extremely high competit competitive nature. Everyone is the best in the world. Um, you have to be 100% committed to the sport, which I am, but um, I've been doing that now for so long. I'm just taking a bit of a rest bite, you know, getting myself together. I've moved country, um, like I said, I got married and I'm trying to get my life in order and then uh look to hump back towards the UFC. So it it is a goal of mine in the future, but right now I'm uh I'm you know, like you said, kicking ass, taking fights wherever I can, looking after my life and trying to. I've got a new gym over in in Spain where I live in Malaga. Um, I've started my own gym, so I'm building that business and work putting effort and energy in towards that. Um and then when I'm ready, yeah, I'm definitely look looking to go back to the UFC.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay, great. Um, Luke, tell us a little bit about your routine, your training routine. Does it change from day to day? Does it start with a run? Uh does it end with weights? How does it work for you?
SPEAKER_01I mean it's different, it's different uh depending if I'm in camp or out of camp. Right now I'm out of camp, um, and obviously my body takes a lot of damage during the sport that I do. If I do a camp, it normally lasts you know anywhere between eight and twelve weeks, depending on how how long I've got until a fight is coming up. Um so it's very intense for three months, uh, completely damaging my body, you know, pushing it to the limit every single day, um, which we'll talk about in a sec. But at the moment I'm out of camp, so I like to train, you know, just once a day, um, keep myself fresh, motivated. I don't do any sparring, anything like that. I just concentrate on tech technical ability, um, the weights are involved and running's involved, but I just do one training a day to kind of give my body a bit of a rest. Um so that'll differ each day is a different sort of training. Um, so I'll usually do running or sprints twice a week or once a week out of camp.
SPEAKER_00How often do you run? Um sorry, how far do you run?
SPEAKER_01Um for for fighting, it's not uh it's not so much a long distance thing, it that's like a thing of the past, um, especially for MMA, maybe not for boxing, but for what I do, um I do short distance, very short distance. The most I'll run uh is 5k, which I do very, very rarely. Um I'll do like normally I do sprint, so I'll do like a hundred meter sprint, um, but I'll repeat that. So my sprint workout uh would be a hundred meter sprint or an 80-meter sprint, and you time it. You take 10 seconds rest, you do another sprint, you time it, 10 seconds rest, you do another sprint, and you do that six times, so it's basically six reps. Then you take a minute, uh minute rest, and you do another set of six reps of sprints. Um so I'll do out of camp, I'll do four to six sets, and then in camp, I'll do eight to ten sets, um, like continuously. Um it's a very, very like I said, it's very intense, tough sprinting regime. Um that puts you in like peak cardio for the sport that I do. And every now and then, like I recently I was in Russia doing some commentary work, and I went for a 5k run because there's not really much else to do, but that's all I'll run. I'll run 5k and I won't do much more than that.
SPEAKER_00So, look, how is how does it work? Do you kind of take tips from other fighters or other trainers on your workout, or is it something you listen to your own body and go, Well, I know I need to do this, or I know you need to tweak that? Um, how does that work? I mean, where do you get your advice from for the training?
SPEAKER_01I mean, it's a combination of things over the years and years of experience. Um, now I definitely listen to my body more than I used to, um, depending on what I need to do. Uh, but yeah, I I have advice from expert trainers, expert coaches, Will Wayland, um or William Wayland, um, who uh is a strength conditioning coach from England that I've worked with for many years. He's probably one of my portical worst guy I'll get in contact with if I have any questions. I will I'm I I'm always trying to improve my training and think of different things to do. And then when I find something I want to do, I'll always go to him and say, Oh, I'm thinking about doing this. What do you think? Um, but when I have a camp come up and I'm training for 10 weeks, I'll definitely seek uh professional advice in that area and my strength conditioning. Um, because you know I I don't have a degree in it, or I'm not, you know, I've got a lot of experience doing it, but I like to get advice in that area when it comes to martial arts. That's just my teammates, my group, my coaches, you know, who I but I've been doing it now for quite a long time. Um I feel like I know myself the best I'm gonna know, and and I try and work on different areas, and then I have my coaches, you know, come in and give me some words on what I need to work on. I've been working diligently on jujitsu um for the last six months, like a lot of jujitsu, because I'm lucky enough to train with one of the best jujitsu coaches and and fighters in Europe. So I train with him every day and really trying to improve that area.
SPEAKER_00Luke, um I'm about five foot two, and you're about seven foot two. What how how tall are you exactly? Six foot six. Six foot six. Okay, so what advice would you give to short dudes that want to take you on, for example? What do you hate about the short guys? I mean, how how would I even approach you?
SPEAKER_01Well, the thing with with short guys, uh everyone has advantages, it doesn't matter what what sort of build you are or who you are, like that's what's so interesting about fighting, is but you have to play to those advantages. Like you you normally smaller people they're quick, they're fast, because they're they're not as heavy, you know. They they they will be once they get close to you, they can utilize that a lot better. Like, I'm I'm a like I said, I'm a giant, so if you stay away from me, I've got long arms, long legs, long limbs, I can knee you, punch you, whatever. Um, if you're small or shorter and you're you're in a confrontation, it really is just you need to be like a bull and just come forward a bit like Tyson did, perhaps. Exactly like that. I mean, that's the best example. I mean, Tyson was a beast, but um, if you're a small guy, that's the way you want to fight. You want to fight like that, you want to move your head, you want to get inside, and you want to land bombs. And uh, you know, that's the complete opposite to how I fight because you you wouldn't I I'd be like a twig going back and forth like Tyson. I wouldn't fight.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay, great. Well, uh listen, Luke. Cheers for jumping on the podcast. When's your next fight? Have you got one lined up?
SPEAKER_01Right, I I fought four weeks ago and I won in the second round knockout, um, and I'm just taking a bit of time off now, and I'm I'm probably not gonna fight. I live in Spain, so the summer's here is my first year here, the first summer here. Gonna enjoy it, um, get myself a nice bronze tan, and then I'm gonna look to fight at the end of the year, November, December time. Um, because I've been I've been and then I'm gonna be putting it up a gear and fighting probably once or twice. Uh sorry, once every two months or three well, once a month or once every two months, and really trying to churn out some fights next year. Um, but yeah, right now I'm not fighting, I'm just enjoying myself and uh I'm looking forward to probably getting back in the cage in November.
SPEAKER_00Cool, excellent. I'll look forward to that. Okay, if you want to follow Luke, um the best place is on Twitter normally, isn't it, Luke?
SPEAKER_01At Luke Barnett or Instagram, at LukeBarnat. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Excellent, we'll catch you there. Alright, cheers, Luke. Take care, mate.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Thanks, bye. Luke Barnett there. Okay, so that about wraps it up for another episode of the Men's Wear Style Podcast. If you want to head over to the website, it's www.menswearstyle.co.uk. And if you want to follow us on Twitter, Instagram, all that, it's at menswear style. Okay, so uh that's it from me. I'll be speaking to you in a fortnight's time. Until then, uh I'll see you later, Mick.
SPEAKER_03Go away, go back to the docks where you belong.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay.
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